The ridiculous things we debate in this household...

There has been an on going and sometimes heated debate going in this house for several months...

What do you call this kind of hat?

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I wore one of these for a big chunk of the 1980s (hey, I was a fan of the Wham!), and back then it was most definitely called a Trilby...

When the boys started wearing these a few years ago, I told them they were trilbies...

This year summer Erik came home with the notion that this type of hat is called a Fedora... Let me show you a Fedora...

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The best known fedoras were worn by The Shadow and Indiana Jones...

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As you can see, a Trilby is a significantly smaller hat than a Fedora - which has a wider, flatter brim and taller bowl!

While researching this on the net, because when arguing with a 12 year old, Google is always the ultimate adjudicator - I found that there is much confusion on the whole about what is a trilby, what is a fedora, what is a pork pie hat and all the other variations out there!

If you're wondering, this is a Pork Pie Hat...

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A Pork Pie is a round little hat, though flat on top, with a very trim brim which is generally curled upward all the way around. The preferred manner of wearing this hat is on the back of the head with the brim framing the face.

A pork pie should not be confused with a bowler, which is also a round hat but is rounded on the crown as well...

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Goodness, I wore a lot of bowlers in the 80s and 90s as well (as part of my Salvo uniform)...

But I digress...

I did find a source of definition for distinguishing the Trilby from the Fedora and it seems that the names are interchangeable for the most part these days with the English preferring the name Trilby and Americans preferring Fedora. However, a very long standing hattery in England - Lock & Co. - which makes hats for the royal family most definitely view the two hats as quite distinct and as they have been in business longer than the US has even existed as a country, they should surely have the final word!

Hats have long been out of fashion, which I think is a shame. It takes some confidence to wear a hat - Madonna does it well and regularly - and some of us need to look a while to find one that suits us, but as they seem to be growing in popularity again, I think we should make an effort to call them their right names!


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mimbles said…
I have an Akubra pork pie hat and I love it, but I don't seem to manage to wear it very often. Perhaps I will get into the habit this winter.
Sif Dal said…
Just do it! I had a straw fedora which actually suited me, so I've been considering a felt one for winter...
Jayne said…
Definitely a trilby. My little un wears one all the time.

Ah, pork pie hats. The good old days.
Sif Dal said…
They seem to be very popular again now, Jayne! I'm waiting for the good old bonnet to make a come back! I seriously wore one throughout my teens and they're lovely! (no, not kidding, hahahaha!)